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>> Would it be possible to get my system batteries from you. I called
>> an interstate dealer here in town and he was wanting $158 for the
>> 6V Deep cycle battery. I'll probably go with 4 now, and then add
>> more later on.
I will see about the batteries. Here in Columbus OH and many other local dealer areas, we get the 6v Golf Cart batteries at Sam's for less than $80. Compare specs and such to interstate U2200. That may be an easy option for you. The specs are pretty close. Shipping batteries is not cost effective as you can imagine. I recommend 8 batteries and have seen many installs now that cut corners to get 4 and wound up upgrading to 8 batteries soon after. Do what you can, but 8 will be a better decision since you have the 2 turbine 2.8kW wind/solar kit.
Your battery cabinet and inverter can actually be completely installed before the turbine and solar. Focus first on the cabinet, inverter, and green circuit sub panel as a phase 1. It can run as a battery bank with an, inverter/charger alone. Then if you look at the battery cabinet diagram, you see the charge controller and turbine can simply be added as phase 2 when the mount gets there.
Or, you can wait till you have it all in hand to get started. I have seen it go either way, may be easier to do your first system in 2 stages like that.
You will need..
Metal Cabinet, battery cabling, batteries, dryer vent kit, then your wiring to the turbine from cabinet, your wiring for inveter to the new green circuit etc. Maybe some hardware to mount the charge controller into the cabinet back wall, some tools etc. I think that's it. You may look at getting a cheap battery disconnect like we have shown in other posts here.
Roofmount kit and turbine kit have all nuts, bolts, lag screws, etc. So, you won't need anything but tools and elbow grease for that part of it.
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Im new in this site!
Ok! Thanks for that info.
I hope I can have more friends here!
Im happy to be part of this community!
Just keep on posting Guys!
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Here's a picture of this customer's Skystream. Although a Skystream is a nice system, as this skystream owner realized his Skystream was as useless as a boat anchor in a black-out when the grid goes down. You see, what Skystream or Southwest Windpower never wants to mention, is that a skystream is dead without the grid. That's right, if your grid goes down, your Skystream is useless for power. So, after $15,000 or so invested in a Skystream, you still have no energy security or energy freedom whatsoever, your residence is completely grid dependant.
My favorite line about this was... "I invested 15 Grand in an alternative energy system, but when the utility company went black-out, I realized I had no alternative energy at all."
So, Skystream is cool, but for all that money spent, you have no alternative to the fat cat utility, no energy freedom for your property, and no energy security for your family. Skystream is not Alternative Energy at all, it's green energy but that's it. So, for that kind of money, or even much less, a WindEnergy7 system is really Alternative Energy, Complete Energy Freedom, and True Energy Security for your family and residence. We don't sell boat anchors like Skystream.
WindEnergy7 systems feature an exclusive patented roofmount system. Before this invention, as you can read all over the internet, all other rooftop wind turbines have failed. All other methods and attempts created noise and vibration inside the home or business. But with our patented system there is a solution, making rooftop wind viable for businesses and homeowners to have a rooftop wind generator that is sturdy, secure, and silent inside the home. Our rooftop wind turbine kits are certified in every state of the US to sustain 130mph wind.
Did you know that with a Skystream you will face big problems with building permits? Most cities will not even allow this. The rest will heavily regulate your wind project, making you jump through hoops and invest extra time and money to have your wind power. You have to dig a giant hole, a long ditch, need a tractor. You need a big crane to erect the thing. You need concrete trucks driving through the yard. You need a tractor and dirt to fill the ruts after all the big machinery tore your yard up. Oh, don't forget the sod to repair your tore up yard afer you fill all the ruts with dirt you had to haul in with a dump truck... No problem as you can see by the picture above, after three or four years your yard will probably grow back and fill in looking OK.
A windEnergy7 rooftop mounted turbine is delivered by UPS, just bolts on the roof by an electrician. It's a simple installation of an appliance and circuit to code. By the time you could get a tractor and dig a giant hole in the yard, a WindEnergy7 system is on the roof, quietly making power.
Our WindEnergy7 Systems are all completely wind/solar htbrid integration, creating a perfect and seamless marriage between wind and solar power for your home. Whether you buy a wind or solar home system from us, all our systems are hybrid ready. Our efficient solar capability gives you power in a low wind or no-wind period. Thus again, Skystream is as useless as a boat anchor on a day with no wind. But our systems will keep supplying energy for your home because they are completely hybrid solar integrated. Again, for the same money or less than a Southwest WindPower Skystream, our systems are far more consistant, delivering power on a day with no wind at all. Never put your money in a green energy system without hybrid solar.
Skystream? What kind of energy security would that be? If there's no wind, there's no power at all. So, now we start to peel away the Skystream onion, we find it's uselss in a black-out and it's just a mice looking yard ornament when there's no wind. Most people would not want a 15 thousand dollar sculpture in the yard, better to buy a system from WindEnergy7 that actually generates power on a still summer day, there are many of those days by the way.
A WindEnergy7 wind turbine kit is a perfectly engineered kit that comes complete with everything you need to succeeed. You don't have to know anything about wind or solar to be successful. Since it comes with everything and is so well enginered many homeowners have installed them by themselves with our phone and email support. As you can see it's not giant, but is rather a very precision machined device that delivers a great deal of energy for it's compact size. Pound for pound it delivers almost twice the power of a Skystream generator head. Using patented magnets that are the most powerful in the world, our small device is also dollar for dollar after intallation almost 2x the watts of a Skystream for a dollar for dollar comparison.
Our rooftop wind turbine system integrates with your home power system. It's a simple installation of a green circuit providing your home with free green electricity. Any electrician can install this system with our documentation and we have phone and email support to train and assist every customer.
Skystream.. Dead without the grid in a blac-out, deal on a still day with no wind, But what if there's no wind, no sun, AND a black-out? What if power went out on the grid on a still summer night with no wind?
Well, that's the beauty of WindEnergy7 engineered home power systems. We deliver home energy security and reliability. All our systems feature an inexpensive battery bank, much like used to power a golf cart, we put a battery bank in a box or cabinet that can power your circuits in any emergency. Our systems deliver UPS style battery back-up to the most important loads of your home. Like your refrigerator, furnace blower motor, sump pump, well pump, television, telephones, etc. Your most important needs have 4.. Four Sorces of power, Grid, Wind, Solar, and worse case scenario, even battery backup. It's a level of home energy security and freedom that no other system can deliver, especially not a Skystream system. For about the same investment, our systems are much, much more consstant, reliable, and dependable as a source of power for your home or business.
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Hello,
posted at the home page is a new video that I uploaded for viewing. It shows some good details of installing.
The sub assembling of the mount kit prior to going to the roof. In shipment the legs sometimes get out of align a bit. Check distance between each leg to be at 24", if not, tap the legs with a rubber mallet till spaced out, centerd at 24" exactly. It's easier to do this and check this on the ground than on the roof. You put it all together like this and tie up the legs.
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Another thing, whenever possible, you ALWAYS go up from the peak of the roof and go from there, it's so much safer than going up the sides because you can slip when coming up the sides of a roof. Always find a way to tie off a rope or harness. Please don't work on a roof without a harness or rope tied off. As soon as you have a secured turbine mount, tie off to that, it's bull stout and is the best thing to tie off to once it's in place. Be VERY careful on the roof, take your time. Please don't underestimate how easy it is to slip and fall off a roof. Take precautions and work from the peak. If a roof is too steep like pictured here, get a roofing contractor to install the mounts.
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| DC Disconnects, DC Fuses, AC Diosconnect Wind Turbine Solar |
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In summary, there are many options and methods to employ disconnects, breakers, fuses, and lightning protection. In protecting a system completely there are options that extend far beyong what is required.
However, in a smaller wind/solar system, these costs can be very high in scope of the install. The smaller the system, the more all this protection can affect the ROI (return on investment) and budget. I have always invested minimal protection methods for smaller systems.
Example, in my $19,000 system, the HO 4.2kw, it will feature every level of protection at a cost of about $1000 total. I am in middle now of engineering that whole hog protection system now. The level of protection and precaution is escalated to reflect my investment and dependence on that green energy. I will actually be going overboard as an example of what extreme precautions can be put into place. Probably a bit of overkill on my system here.
I will have a working model of extreme and complete protection. I am going to put out three packages of enhanced wiring system protection kits, as upgrades, for customers to buy from the site. This is all considered system wiring, but to order the parts and kit will help to clarify and expedite having a more protected system. Additionally, proper parts and engineering is hard to source and develop locally.
On my smallest systems I was not as concerned with enhanced protection and as I invested more and more, my system is more valuable and important to be protected.
At a minimum for a system, I would recommend a single DC breaker disconnect between the controller and battery bank, leave a coil in that wiring so you can add it in later. You may add a DC lighning arrestor right there.
I would add a battery bank fuse between the battery bank and the inverter, leave some slack coil in wire for adding that later right there.
For off-Grid, I would have a 30 amp AC breaker going into the inverter and a 30 amp AC breaker out of the inverter and that's about all you need at this time. Grid-Tie would be a 60 Amp.
You are looking at a few hundred bucks of protection there. I can sell you all those parts as I am in the process of making kits for this to be available on the site.
Another thing to think about is long term plans of your install. If you are definitely planning to go with 3 turbine grid tie in the end, it's more important maybe to go full protection now, so that you are not replacing or reworking anything.
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Mainly this is about safety and security of the system and user is why I prefer a cabinet, always.
Battery bank shelving needs proper clearnce between shelves. In order to service, maintain, replace and even when putting on the cabling, if clearance with metal shelving is too tight, not as good for safety. It's real easy to make an accidental contact, ground, and cause short, arc, spark, Needs 3 to 4" minimum working clearance above batteries.
It's really easy to short out when putting cables on and replacing batteries etc. A short can cause a fire or battery to explode etc. I will feel WAY more comfortable if you give at least 3 to 4" clearance in there. You will need to check fluids every few months too, from time to time add a bit of water, and need a little working space for maintenance.
The battery spacing side/side is good to me at 1/2" to 2", just add enough headroom for working space and maintenance. I would add a 1/2" plywood under the batteries. I can't remember what the technical reason was but I was trained to set batteries on non-conductive surface. Wood or a non corrosive plastic is used for that in any installation that I do.
I have been thinking of going to a concrete board or large ceramic tiles so that I have non conductive and non combustible.
Another note, because of spark hazard, I would prefer a cabinet, and I would be concerned about lawnmower or and gasoline in that area close to the battery bank. FOR SURE open the area and let it air out, maybe roll out the mower before you work with battery cables and the connection of the inverter. There is spark, arc, when you connect batteries to inverter usually, and pretty common to have spark & arc here and there when connecting battery cables.
Remember not to smoke when working with a battery bank or checking fluid levels. If that gas is not vented it is combustible and corrosive, that's a good reason to contain it with a cabinet and vent it to the outside.
Another little tip for safey, flip batteries in orientation to put your positive terminals in back of battery bank. This puts the negative out front and it makes it less likely to have an accidental short. With the positives in back, they are a bit more obscured and just harder to hit with a tool or something.
A cabinet helps to contain heat and warmth to keep batteries from freezing, contains corrosion, controls gasses, contains a potential explosion, combustion. Batteries will last longes in a comfortable room temperature and although they will work in heat and cold the battery bank should not be allowed to hit freezing levels. If batteries freeze, they become hazardous to charge. So, if you have a battery bank in cold, the cabinet helps maintain a temperature that is safe. YES I am going through a list of extreme possibility. But, for me, $238 is worth protecting from these things. So, consider it. An appropriate battery cabinet is, to me, a necessity. You will not see a battery bank at MY HOUSE without the cabinet, a metal cabinet.
I have seen plenty of shelved battery banks and so it's not uncommon, and is done allot. But I have to (as a worthy trainer) propose what I believe and why I would do this or that. I do think the cabinet is the way to go and I always use a cabinet with batteries enclosed inside steel, vented to outside with an dryer style air vent.
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Hello Everybody,
Below are some of the first video clips of the new installation at my house. I have been rebuilding the home wind turbine system at my house and it's been slow going because I am doing it between customer support and sales calls. But I have the turbines flying and the system s coming together nicely. Here is the video clip of the system in about a 10mph wind after I got it all up on the roof. This video is prior to installing the solar panels. I will have more video and photos processed and posted soon as I can. This is the new WindEnergy7 HO Home Rooftop Wind Turbine Kit 4.2kW.
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I will be posting many, many nice pictures and video this weekend of the 4.2kW system install. I will email out some links to that sometime this weekend probably.
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I have another off-grid system coming in off trade in from a customer. The guy is buying a 2.8kW HO Turbine System and trading in his 700 watt off grid starter kit system. So, this is a turbine and inverter that has run less than a year, has original packaging, in good cosmetic an operational shape. The roof mount kit and additional stuff will all be new because the guy is using that in his upgraded system and leaving the rest in place on his house. So, this is a $2990 system new, $1000 off for a system less than a year old. System comes with full new system warranty and will be tested and completely checked out prior to shipping it back out to you. I can add new solar panels to the kit if you want it with solar. This won't last long, most of the trade ins have been selling in about a week from the time I get them in. Full warranty and complete support just like a new system.
Call or email me at WindEnergy7.com
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>> I am wanting to upgrade my off grid single turbine to an HO
>> system 2 turbine grid-tie. Can you take my 700 turbine and
>> Off Grid inverter on trade in and configure me a kit to get
>> this accomplished. Kit wors well, want more juice for winter.
>> Jim
Hello Jim,
Yes, sure, I will send you a custom quote to get this done. I will be taking in your 700 watt turbine and off-grid inverter in on trade. That must be in great shape and have ALL ORIGINAL PACKAGING or I cannot take in on trade. It will be tested here and repacked and i will sell it to someone as a trade in, pre-owned system, will put a new roof mount with it. I have been selling several of these upgrades and people buy the trade-ins right away.
You will have to upgrade some of your wiring to do the upgrade from off-grid to grid tie, will require 6 guage all around inverter, breakers, battery cabinet, bypass etc. I will send you a quote for this upgrade with a link to pay by credit card and we can get started. Give me a coupke of days. Thanks.
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>> Can I buy BP Solar panels from you. I see that you use some
>> BP Solar panels in your kits and I was wondering if I can buy the
>> BP Solar Panels directly from you without the whole kit?
>> Thanks, Wayne
Hi Wayne,
I do sell panels in pairs but am not selling the bp solar panels anymore because of the production yield. The panels I am selling now outperform the bp solar panels that I used to use with my kits. So, I haven't sold any BP solar panels in awhile. I can sell you any kind of panels you like but it needs to be a decent sized order, maybe $3000 or more and I will do you a custom quote. No problem, buy bp solar panels or any other kind you like.
If you want to buy our panels, you can buy them one pair at a time. They are 117watt rated, so a pair is 234 watts and you can buy them at the following URL:
http://windenergy7.com/home-wind/turbine/index.php?exp=&cat=3
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>> Sam, I need a drawing with main panel and green box using the
>> interlock machanicial switching. not sure how to wire it up?
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Hello Rex,
I will send you the wind turbine diagram that uses the mechanical interlock switching. The wind turbine diagram for the grid-tie wind turbine kit. That diagram shows the wind turbine setup using a full bypass loop and the mechanical interlock switch for our systems. You may already have a copy of that, it was about page 12 or so in the last new manual draft that I sent to you in PDF.
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Hello Rex,
I will send you the wind turbine diagram that uses the mechanical interlock switching. The wind turbine diagram for the grid-tie wind turbine kit. That diagram shows the wind turbine setup using a full bypass loop and the mechanical interlock switch for our systems. You may already have a copy of that, it was about page 12 or so in the last new manual draft that I sent to you in PDF.
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